Gauging Interest Full silicon radiator Hose Kits for the Mk1

[Tiny]

Hi guys i was talking to a hosing supplier who makes hose kits for alot of different car companies inc a 4AGE AE86 set up after seeing a Kit they made on a friends AE86 and its Very good quality.

I gave them a ring asking would they be interested in making a silicon hose set (in a range of colours) for the Mk1 and they would be :+:

Im gathering a full set of rad hoses tomorrow to send to them and that have said they will do a special price for the club once they have the Jigs set up which they said normally takes about a month to get right/fully test.

So Not sure on price but we are talking about £50-60+postage for similar kits with the same number of hoses. we can probably get the postage down by sending them to a few people who then distribute to local members. :+:

What do you think

[Vyizis]

Sounds good to me! So long as they can do yellow :D

[MR2Terry]

As long as the quality is there, very very interested :+:

[Vyizis]

if they can do smaller bore tubing in the same colours for vacuum pipes on the engine i would be interested in that too!

[jimi]

Depending on quality, price, colour and which hoses will be in the kit, count me in :+:

Jimi

[mr2mk1chick]

if they can do smaller bore tubing in the same colours for vacuum pipes on the engine i would be interested in that too!


vaccuum hosing in any colour is v easy to find and would match most samco type stuff without getting it from them.

[Tiny]

Had a nice phone call with a chap in Japan today and they will happily make up the full kit we discussed their manufacturing and testing process and im happy that they could make replacment parts for some of the aircraft i work on.

Only thing is they can only do either Yellow or Blue for the kit. :problem:

[Vyizis]

Had a nice phone call with a chap in Japan today and they will happily make up the full kit we discussed their manufacturing and testing process and im happy that they could make replacment parts for some of the aircraft i work on.

Only thing is they can only do either Yellow or Blue for the kit. :problem:

Not a problem for me :D

[MR2Terry]

Blue sounds good to me, especially if its Samco' esque blue :+: Any idea on price and whats in the kit, or am I getting ahead of myself :shifty:

[Tiny]

heres a good example of what they are capable of and the quality Its a nice samco...esque blue

http://www.jappartsspecialist.com/produ ... ts_id=4122 (http://www.jappartsspecialist.com/product_info.php?cPath=92_186&products_id=4122) works out with postage about £60

[Paff]

If you struggle with these guys\want more colour options, I deal with a company that doesn't currently do mk1 hoses but will make some up if a certain number of people (I'll have to find how many they would need).

They offer them in Blue - Red - Purple - Yellow - Green - Black-Orange

Just another thought for you if you wanted more colours.

[Tiny]

please do if they are abit more local than Japan the prices may be cheaper :+:

[Paff]

Yep they are UK based,

Shall drop them a mail\ give them a call and see what they say.
I might need to send a set pipes off to them so they can price it up, shall see if I have a full set to send in my box of pipes.

Oh and Vyizis, they do Vacuum piping in Blue, red, yellow and black.

[mr2mk1chick]

If you struggle with these guys\want more colour options, I deal with a company that doesn't currently do mk1 hoses but will make some up if a certain number of people (I'll have to find how many they would need).

They offer them in Blue - Red - Purple - Yellow - Green - Black-Orange

Just another thought for you if you wanted more colours.

I think that if going to the effort of getting a kit sorted then the full colours options would be far better (esp seeing how many people would want red too i guess..., and glad they have orange ;) )

I will keep an eye out for your updates :+:

[Paff]

Well I've emailed them but my contact didn't make it in today (something about snow apparently :) ). They know my request now and hopefully will get back to me asap.

Oh this company also supply different types of clamp, the silicon tape in different colours, reducers, angles, bends. So anything custome we could possibly do as well. They also have the bulge pipes like those used on the SC's etc.

[SteveM]

I've only just come accross this topic but I'd also be very interested, but only if there was a choice of colours I'm afraid.

[Paff]

Ok, bit of news today.

The guy I deal with will do the hoses happily.
However he can't give me a price until he's had the original pipes to see what is needed.
I've got to dig out the OE hoses (don't really want to rip them off my car.

Once they have them and have given the price we will need between 10-15 people in on it before they will make the silicon copies.

After that first batch tho they won't have a minimum order, its just to make it worth thier while to set up the tooling.

[Tiny]

Ill be very interested in a set in black do all the initial 10-15 all have to be the same colour?

[The Silver Fox]

I'm interested in a set in black as well

[Paff]

Doesn't matter the colour, the 10-15 sets is just to get the numbers to make up the tooling. :)

Just one question....

Does anyone have a complete set of hoses already off thier car that they could spare, if not no problem I'll dig around my hose boxes to work out the set :)

[mr2mk1chick]

I have a set of hoses that Crazylegs gave me to look into this very thing for the mk1 club.
I never got the momentum to send the hoses off.
You are welcome to pick them up from Leicster (Your location is not in your profile...)

[Paff]

Ah down in Newport, South Wales so a bit far to pick them up :(

Never mind, I have to have a set somewhere I can use.
Cheers for the offer tho :)

[mr2mk1chick]

Ok

I also had a thought: when i was going to try and do this for the mk1 club shop i was going to get a price for club members etc.
If you are short of numbers to get the first batch made up, then mabe contact Richrad Brett (club shop) to see if this would still be viable. this way it will be a benefit to club members. It may be possible for the club to pre-purchase a number but not get them made up till the orders come it to get the customers colour chioce. (i guess the company just will want 'x' amt to start a new run.
I guess once they have made the mould then it would be possible to get futher orders made up as required one by one.

[SteveM]

I'd like a set in Black too if this does go ahead :)

[mistertwokw]

Definately interested in this, cant decide on blue or yellow though :wtf:

[Monkeymax]

I forgot to reply to this...
Yes please. Red or black if available (though as the car is red, I'll probably take black).

And I'll find out what similarities are with the SC - if I can use them (even some/most) on the SC as well, I'll take two sets... (cos I'm gonna have to buy some new pipes for it anyway)

[mr2mk1chick]

Paff - did you get any further?

I have got together the 'interested' list (depending on colour choice and price):

1) Tiny
2) Vyizis
3) MR2Terry
4) Jimi
5) SteveM
6) Silversurfer
7) mistertwokw
8) monkeymax

Thats a very good start in numbers...
Did Richard Brett get in touch (club shop)?

Anyone else interested please copy the list and paste this into your reply and add yourself to the list.

[MR2Terry]

:wave: Im still interested, any news? :+:

[Kateg28]

I would like some too but can't decide between blue or black :think:

[mk1chris]

And I'll find out what similarities are with the SC - if I can use them (even some/most) on the SC as well

Coolant lines are identical on the SC.

I'm definately in for a blue set, and might have a second one in red if the price is ok.
But one in blue irrespective of price (within reason :lol: )

[mr2mk1chick]

updated interested list, dependant on price:
1) Tiny
2) Vyizis
3) MR2Terry
4) Jimi
5) SteveM
6) Silversurfer
7) mistertwokw
8) monkeymax
9) KateG
10) mk1chris

[omracing]

updated interested list, dependant on price:
1) Tiny
2) Vyizis
3) MR2Terry
4) Jimi
5) SteveM
6) Silversurfer
7) mistertwokw
8) monkeymax
9) KateG
10) mk1chris
11) omracing

[STUAW11]

I'd be interested in a set in red :+:

[Paff]

Hi, I have had a pm from mr2mk1 chick on this one, I havn't got any pipes myself (think they have all been chopped up. She's going to try and get some to me so I can get my supplier to cost them for us.

Just wanted to let you know I hadn't forgotten, for some reason I've had no reply emails from this thread, so I'll keep an eye on it a bit closer :)

[philmk1]

Definatley interested if it can be done at the right price :+:
1) Tiny
2) Vyizis
3) MR2Terry
4) Jimi
5) SteveM
6) Silversurfer
7) mistertwokw
8) monkeymax
9) KateG
10) mk1chris
11) omracing
12) philmk1

[The Silver Fox]

Any progress on this?

p.s. Change of username - was Silver Surfer but that was causing confusion with similar usernames

[Paff]

I've not managed to get a full set of spare pipes together to get a quote from my supplier yet, got some of them now but still missing some.

If worst comes to the worst I should have a mk1 in somtime soon for a V6 conversion so might be able to steal the pipes that are removed from there.

[coanda]

1) Tiny
2) Vyizis
3) MR2Terry
4) Jimi
5) SteveM
6) Silversurfer
7) mistertwokw
8) monkeymax
9) KateG
10) mk1chris
11) omracing
12) philmk1
13) - gahh! not taking that slot!
14) coanda

[Paff]

Ok just to let you guys know, I'll be dropping a 4age out of my new mk1 very soon so will finally be able to send off a set of hoses to get the prices my supplier can make them up for.

Just wanted to let you know I havn't forgotten, just been struggling to get a full set of hoses.

[alfiembra]

1) Tiny
2) Vyizis
3) MR2Terry
4) Jimi
5) SteveM
6) Silversurfer
7) mistertwokw
8) monkeymax
9) KateG
10) mk1chris
11) omracing
12) philmk1
13) - gahh! not taking that slot!
14) coanda
15) alfiembra

[Caledonian]

I'd be interested and dropped my engine out yesterday. There are hoses lying about everywhere :lol:
Happy to send them as samples, just let me know what and to where,

Jack

[pistol pete]

1) Tiny
2) Vyizis
3) MR2Terry
4) Jimi
5) SteveM
6) Silversurfer
7) mistertwokw
8) monkeymax
9) KateG
10) mk1chris
11) omracing
12) philmk1
13) - gahh! not taking that slot!
14) coanda
15) alfiembra
16) Pistol Pete

[Bushy09]

I'd probably be interested but all hoses seem ok at present and money's a bit tight, also, have a few rust issues, clutch issues that need addressing first!
Would probably want all hoses if I went that route rather than just radiator hoses.

[Tiny]

what happened to this in the end?

[SteveM]

Hi, what's the latest on this if anything? I'm still very interested! I've also just spotted this on ebay which I didn't think was available?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Toyota-MR2-Mk1-Sa ... 7C294%3A50 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Toyota-MR2-Mk1-Samco-Silicon-Coolant-Hose-Kit_W0QQitemZ290334981483QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Car sParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item4399503d6b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A10%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C29 4%3A50)

[Monkeymax]

I'm also still interested! Does anyone have any spare standard hoses they can donate to this group buy on a loan or something? (Given Paff is disappearing soon... :( )

[old petrolhead]

Hi . I don`t want to muscle in on anybody`s act, but I have contacted Samco & the do supply a kit via their agent Merlin Motor sport at Castle Combe, for £197.04 including VAT & carriage. . Most colours available. Would do a group buy of 10 @ 10% discount each in separate colours. & ship individual requirements direct. Problem is they need cash up front. Provided we got cash from 10 members that is no problem. Take a look at Merlin`s website & access product no TCS379/C & let me know if you are interested.

Cheers Richard :D

[mk1chris]

That product code relates to the Mr2 Mk2 REV1 non-turbo kit.

The one on ebay is the mk2 REV1 kit also.

They DO NOT yet make a kit for the MK1.

[old petrolhead]

Thanks Chris. The little B***!!`s I specifically asked for a MK1. Sorry for the confusion. I will "Speak " to them at our next visit to Combe in September.
Richard :oops:

[Tiny]

I still think china is our best bet for these. the companies out there that i spoke to seem to think they could make one for about the £100 mark all we needed was a full set of hoses to send them and a minimum order of ten or so to make the full kit and the designs worth while. :+:

[MR2Terry]

Hey Tiny could you find out for definate and if so do you have a set of hoses??

[Paff]

Sorry guys, got a little busy closing up some jobs before I left and trying to sort out my new life so I can hopefully stay abroad.

I've got some lads over on twobrutal (Alun J and marksman) who have all my contacts details now or you can speak to Anthony at SFS performance direct if you needed to. Might be worth a try.

[The Silver Fox]

Is anyone doing anything about this? Its eight months since it was first suggested.

[SteveM]

I was just thinking the same thing, I'd love this to get off the ground!

It's just a thought, do you think there'd be any point in us all emailing Samco direct? When I did this a few months ago I was told they were considereing introducing a kit for the MK1 but hadn't got round to it yet and couldn't give me any timescales. If they start get enough seperate enquires though it may well be enough to persuade them it's worth producing a kit?

Here's a link if anyone wants to give it a go :)

http://www.samcosport.com/uk/contact_us.asp

[MR2MK1]

Hi
Have been looking for a full set of hoses for a while now so if this is still going to happen put me down for a set

Cheers
Colin

[MR2MK1]

ok have just sent a message of to Samco sport so lets wait and see what they come back with


Copy of message
Hi
I am looking for a full set of silicone hoses fo an 1988 MR2MK1 and was wondering if you do a set for it.Also i am a member of the MR2MK1 owners club and we have currently 10 to 15 members who would be interested in a set please advise
cheers
Colin

[MR2MK1]

Hi all
Here is the reply from samco

Hi Colin,

Could you send in a full set of hoses off the Mk1, labeling each hose with
details of its function and location on the engine. I can then give you a
quote for the hose kit.

Best regards,

Mark Hale.

Anyone got a spare set to lend i only have the ones on my car

Colin

[mk1bexwa]

sounds good are they definately blue or yellow?
And is that price including postage?

[Gad]

I feel this one's maybe a little dead and cold at the moment.
Looks like there was plenty of interest if you can convince anyone to revive it though. :)

[mk1bexwa]

Hi

I dont know if this helps anyone but my car is currently in pieces with some of the hoses off, if you are still looking for hoses to send off?

Just a couple of questions:
how long will they be gone for?
Which ones do Samco need?
What information do they need with them?

Let me know if this helps.

Thanks. Becky.

[lukemk1]

is anyone still interested in doing this ? :shifty:

[mk1bexwa]

Yeah I'm still interested if it's still going ahead??

[lukemk1]

id deffenatly be interested if we can get enough people to get costs down :+: id be mor ethen happy to send hoses to them if they need them to quote ?

[sagbelly]

I would be interested

[Kateg28]

I would still be interested.

[The Silver Fox]

I am still interested

[Gad]

I'd be interested, half of them probably wouldn't fit but still. :D

[andyroo104]

I would also be very interested in these. :D

[chief44]

I'd also have a set.

[coanda]

And me! I'll be replacing as many hoses as I can, including Vacuum hoses. so anything to help the process along is great!

[matlequack]

count me in as well !

[MR2MK1]

If this is still on the cards I would be up for a set of Blue ones

Colin :+:

[steed_]

is this still happening?

[MR2MK1]

Not sure what is happening been i while since i posted and as you see no reply but i am still up for a set of hoses

colin

[Diamond_Bolt]

Count me in :)

[matlequack]

Hi all,

since things did not seem to move, I've contacted Samco directly and linked them to the thread to show them that there was an interest in the kit.

They are ok to manufacture it as long as they get a complete set of hoses (as written before) but so far nobody has sent them anything.

Since I'll be taking the engine off my car this summer, I offered to send them my hoses for them to assess the feasability and give us a price and the number of orders required to make it happen. But if anyone has a complete set of hoses available by all means send them to SAMCO, that will speed things up.

[MR2MK1]

Good one :+: got no spare hoses but am still interested if the price is right
Colin

[lukemk1]

i think ive got a spare set og hoses .. but they have all been mixed up between my new mk1 and my old one ... any one got a drawing or a pic of what a full set is for the mk1 one and ill sort this out and try get the ball rolling with it ????

[matlequack]

i think ive got a spare set og hoses .. but they have all been mixed up between my new mk1 and my old one ... any one got a drawing or a pic of what a full set is for the mk1 one and ill sort this out and try get the ball rolling with it ????

If this can help...

http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_E_1989_TOYOTA_MR2_AW11R-WCMQFW_1603.2.html

gives you a rough idea of the shapes

[qazwer]

i think ive got a spare set og hoses .. but they have all been mixed up between my new mk1 and my old one ... any one got a drawing or a pic of what a full set is for the mk1 one and ill sort this out and try get the ball rolling with it ????

surely One of the eBay breakers (not sure if they are on here) could wip a full set of hoses out of a scrapper in no time to get this sorted once and for all.

[neiljones308]

Someone asked me the other day for a full set of hoses as he worked for a company that make cilicone hoses. We agreed a price, but when i finally managed to get all the hoses off, i couldn't find his original email. I have now sent all the hoses to someone in Australia, so i will have to do it all again.

[kevin..in]

Someone asked me the other day for a full set of hoses as he worked for a company that make cilicone hoses. We agreed a price, but when i finally managed to get all the hoses off, i couldn't find his original email. I have now sent all the hoses to someone in Australia, so i will have to do it all again.

Neil Silicon hoses has been an ongoing thing for years, no onehas ever got it as far as production, I spoke to these guys a few years ago and they were willing to make a set from patern hoses, at that point Jo (mr2mk1chick) took the project on but at that time she was pretty (well she's always been pretty!) much doing everything for the club plus arranging her wedding, so it never got as far as sending a set of hoses off for estimates to production costs. Plan was that they were going to be available from the club shop, anyway waffle over contact these guys for a company willing to take the project on


http://www.goodflexrubber.com/

not a million miles away from you as they're in Worcester!

[charged]

SFS will custom make them.

[neiljones308]

I've managed to contact the silicone hose chap, and he said he still wants to do them, and will contact me in a few weeks when he has less work on.

[pistol pete]

http://www.siliconhose.com/SFS_Carkits.pdf

[neiljones308]

Just a quick update on the hoses. They are now with the manufacturer. I have taken them all off, labeled them all up, sent pictures of where they all go etc etc. They will take about 5 to 6 weeks to make.
If you want any, please email me at mk1mr2@live.co.uk and i wil put your name, number and email address to one side and let you know when they are ready. I don't hols a grudge, but some members will be more welcome that others. They know who they are!!

[tommundy]

Neil, any details of a group buy, including price and number of people required to meet the price should be posted up on the forum with a list of people showing their interest. It shouldn't be done via PM.

[Kateg28]

I am interested in a set although are the same for and SC?

[neiljones308]

Latest news on the silicon hoses........... They have made a sample set for me to try to make sure they fit, then i can give them the go ahead for a production run. They have sent out to me, so when i get back from holiday next week, i will try them for size.

[superwhite90]

Is this samco quality?

I start a new job in the pipework industry tomorrow so i'll probably be able to get silicon hoses for nothing at all and use those instead!

[neiljones308]

Good luck in your new job Alex

[lukemk1]

im still very interested .. but id like to know a rough price? SFS sell the kit for around £220 when i spoke to them at trax and thats any colour, but they dont keep the kit on the shelf so would take a few weeks to make the set.

[Daniel]

i would definately be interested in this, my hoses are knackered :+:

[charged]

Having chatted to someone in the know, I can supply a 7 piece SFS coolant hose kit for the Mk1 for £160 , any colour. This is ready to go and is via a UK based MR2 specialist.

[Kateg28]

Ollie, are the hoses the same for an N/A and an SC?

[charged]

Ollie, are the hoses the same for an N/A and an SC?

The hoses are for an NA Kate but the SC will be very similar

The specialist I am ordering these from is confident they can be made to fit a SC, they are based near Luton so not a million miles away. Supplied and Fitted cost (via the group buy) and including a coolant flush and pressure test would be estimated at £225 for the SC or £200 for an NA

[Kateg28]

Ooh, that is interesting. Problem is funds are a bit low at the moment and I would have to cancel my Christmas presents to my son, is there a time limit on this?

[charged]

No not at all Kate, they are available now at £160 for the NA but I thought a group buy might be better. If not enough takers then they can be bought one by one.

[neiljones308]

I think the ones i'm having done will be cheaper than that as they will be doing a longer run. Around £130 to £140 at a guess, but i will not know for sure for a week or so.
Also available in a choice of colours.